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Ros Collins, Rosa: Memories with licence (Author’s response)

February 14, 2020

Book coverLast October, I reviewed a book by Ros Collins titled Rosa: Memories with licence. As the title suggests, this book is not quite memoir, but neither is it really fiction. My post generated quite some discussion from commenters, which resulted in my saying “Maybe Ros will comment here and answer the questions”. Unfortunately, just as her book was launched, Ros had a sudden hip fracture, resulting in hospitalisation. Now, getting back to normal, she has contacted me saying she’d love to respond to the comments, but that it was long. I suggested making it a separate post. I do hope those commenters see it, and read what she has to say.

First, though, for those interested, she writes that she is well into “a new book based on [her late husband] Alan’s 19th century ancestors. It will be creative non-fiction.” Love it! And now …

Author with her bookFrom Ros Collins …

Some background

My first book, Solly’s girl (2015) was as factually accurate as I was able to research. It was intended to complement my husband Alan’s memoir Alva’s boy (2008). Even before that, he had used his terrible childhood experiences in autobiographical fiction, namely The boys from Bondi which is now part 1 of his trilogy, A promised land? (2001). The eminent critic Fay Zwicky called that ‘a psalm to life’.  It seemed an essential task for me to complete the history of our two families.

Rosa developed out of a number of short stories which undoubtedly accounts for the third person-first person dichotomy. My publisher Louis de Vries and editor Anna Blay at Hybrid, dealt with the anomalies with enormous patience. Three chapters, “Jellied eels”, “Sheyn Meydl” and “Rimonim” were part of my work for an online course in short story writing that I undertook in 2017. By the time I’d read William Trevor, Raymond Carver, Hemingway and many other masters of the genre, I knew it was not for me.

However, ‘Creative non-fiction’ had great appeal. “Ultimately, the primary goal of the creative nonfiction writer is to communicate information, just like a reporter, but to shape it in a way that reads like fiction.” (Gutkind, Lee. The best creative nonfiction, Vol. 1). I embarked on Rosa with enthusiasm and a great desire to entertain. Like Alan, I also believe in the  power of humour and only wish I had greater skills.

Response to the comments

 ‘… worn out with fictionalised Australian Jewish memoirs…’  was one I could easily relate to. I was director of Makor Jewish Community Library (now the Lamm Jewish Library of Australia). One of my proudest achievements was to establish the ‘Write your Story’ program whereby I hoped the community ‘would be able to write its own history’. To date more than 150 memoirs have been published. I believe the comprise the largest such series in the world. Inevitably, as Melbourne has so many Holocaust survivor families, the tragedy of the Shoah features prominently. It is however a multicultural series: memoirs have been written about Jewish life in Egypt, Argentina, England – and Australia.

So as far as Australian Jewish literature is concerned, it seems to be overwhelmingly preoccupied with Holocaust memoir or peeks into the exotic world of heavy duty orthodoxy. Sephardi or Spanish-Jewish history has also afforded subjects for writers: People of the book comes to mind.  But Anglo-Australian-Jewish writing is very limited. One of your commentators mentioned Judah Waten. He mentored Alan and urged him to write his first book of short stories, Troubles (1983), which was highly commended in the Alan Marshall awards.  Waten, Morris Lurie, Serge Liberman, et al, born here or not, all write out of the European tradition; the migrant/survivor experience is very much to the fore. Alan’s ancestors arrived either on a convict transport or later as free settlers in the 1800s and Rosa (me of course) is British, a ‘ten-pound Pom’ who in the 1950s wore white gloves to visit the ‘city’. Anglos. And this difference makes for confusion. It’s unlikely that your readers are familiar with communal conflicts but I’ll just open the subject by pointing out that the Jewish Anglo community in Australia was ‘more British than the British’. For many of them the mother country was still considered ‘home’, and ‘the Empire’ really mattered! The ‘reffos’ – the migrants – were often disparaged, even despised. To get a picture, don’t bother with the history books, read Alan, much more digestible and he makes the reader laugh as well as cry.

Your readers mention the Americans and British including towering figures such as Roth and Jacobson, both of whom are favourites of mine. They would doubtless be puzzled by the fact that many local Jews couldn’t warm to Jacobson’s The Finkler question [see my review] which I greatly admire. I imagine it’s the British connection. I understand how difficult it is for the mythical ‘general reader’ to come to grips with Jewish lit in all its complex variety. It helps to remember the profoundly different histories. Australian, American and British Jews are far from being all of a piece. Howard Jacobson for example has been exasperated by critics who have called him ‘the British Phillip Roth’; he retorts that Jane Austen is a far greater influence. Australian reviewers have found shades of Dickens in Alan’s work.

I’d like to  mention some helpful titles which have impressed me, authors who have made me think about identity and heritage, my place ‘down here at the bottom of the world’ as I said in 1957.

On being Jewish by Rabbi Julia Neuberger is straightforward, accessible and sensible. Baroness Neuberger, a member of the House of Lords, is a Reform rabbi (the first woman to head her own congregation in Britain), a tireless worker for social justice and progressive values. She’s younger than me but we share some knowledge of Anglo-Jewish life in the 1950s. Her ancestry is German-Jewish; her ‘British-ness’ is rather like my own.

Jews and words by the eminent Israeli writer Amos Oz and his daughter, historian Fania Oz-Salzberger, is a wonderful ‘blend of storytelling and scholarship, conversation and argument’; it also includes some great jokes.  What I like so much about this book is the way the authors introduce themselves:  At this early stage we need to say loud and clear what kind of Jews we are.  Both of us are secular Jewish Israelis. And then this, As Jewish atheists, we take religion to be a great human invention. ‘Jewish atheists’ must be very confusing for some  readers!  

Closer to home is Australian genesis: Jewish convicts and settlers 1788-1850 (1974) by J. S.  Levi and G. Bergman. It is eminently readable and beautifully illustrated. It should never have been allowed to go out of print but most libraries will have a copy. Rabbi John Levi is of ‘Anglo’ heritage and is a most sensitive and compassionate scholar. His reference book, These are the names: Jewish lives in Australia 1788-1850 (2013) is an invaluable guide to the lives of the more than 1600 Jews who came to Australia in that early period. It has been fascinating for me to read the transcript of the trial at the Old Bailey of ‘our’ 17-year old convict. He became a respectable citizen in Goulburn and the local ‘Hebrew congregation’ would meet in his store for ‘champagne suppers’ to celebrate Royal Family events back in the mother country.

An essential guide to Australian-Jewish literature is Serge Liberman’s monumental Bibliography of Australian Judaica (2011).

Did I have a ‘plan’?  Was it all ‘true’?  Did I want to protect others?  No, yes and no. I wrote Rosa because I wanted to. Isn’t that how most writers operate? The events I’ve dramatized are true but obviously I am unable to replicate conversations that took place in the past. ‘Licence’ was a word suggested to me by my kind mentor Karenlee Thompson who has written so movingly about bush fires in Flame Tip [see my review].  For example, I know my maternal grandfather went AWOL from the army of Czar Alexander and I’m guessing he was forcibly conscripted like so many other little Jewish boys at the age of 12 and couldn’t contemplate another 25 years of army life. I know he received letters from his sister in Kiev until in 1941 they suddenly ceased, and I’m assuming my great-aunt perished with 34,000 others in the massacre at the ravine of Babi Yar. And, as I write in the book, I have no wish ever to set foot in Eastern Europe. Israel is another very different matter.

Sue, you conclude your review with a most perceptive paragraph:  Rosa, then, is a warm-hearted, open-minded “memoir” written by an Anglo-Australian Jewish woman for whom being Jewish, as for many I believe, is as much, if not more, about history and heritage as god and religion. In this book, Collins interrogates her family’s past, and her late husband’s story, in order to come to a better understanding of herself, and of what she would like to pass on to the next generation. This book is testament to that soul-searching, and makes good reading for anyone interested in the life-long business of forming identity, Jewish or otherwise.

I never set out to be an apologist for my heritage and it has been a surprise to learn that so many readers have found Rosa ‘enlightening’, an opportunity to see the variety in my community. The misconceptions are often funny but also appalling at a time when intolerance and racism are on the rise in this ‘lucky country’.  So I shall end here with two stories about electricians:

My electrician who is an intelligent much-travelled man asked me: Won’t you get into trouble with your rabbi for not wearing a wig? He was amazed that I laughed and even more surprised to learn that rabbis really have little authority – they’re teachers – and although I seldom attend a service I cannot be disenfranchised.

My son’s electrician had a much more sinister question. Pointing to the mezuzah on the doorpost of my son’s house he asked:  It’s full of blood, isn’t it?  My son, completely secular, Vietnam vet, non-kosher, a painter – and a proud Jew – replied:  Of  course it isn’t, there’s little piece of paper inside with a prayer and blessing written on it; I’ll take it down and show you. But the electrician was horrified:  Ooh no, don’t do that, we’d better not touch.

And that, Sue, is how it all starts with rubbish like that, words that lead to swastika flags in Beulah and book burning …

If in Rosa I can open some windows I think it’s a good thing.

And so do I. Thanks very much Ros for appearing out of the blue with this warm, open and informative response to the comments on my post. I look forward to seeing your next book!

26 Comments leave one →
  1. February 14, 2020 9:26 pm

    How terrific, ST ! – and thanks very much to Ros for participating. She has now learned that being reviewed by Whispering Gums is a very positive experience.
    🙂

    • February 14, 2020 9:31 pm

      Oh, you are so nice M-R, you can comment here any time! (How strange that I’ve just been catching up on your blog, and here you were over here!)

  2. February 14, 2020 9:55 pm

    So pleased to see this here, good on you Sue for hosting it!

    • February 14, 2020 10:16 pm

      Thanks Lisa. I think it’s a valid thing to let authors respond to discussion. I think some authors are uncertain about doing it, but my feeling is that if they are respectful (which of course most are) they are very welcome to respond to discussion. Do you agree?

      • February 15, 2020 10:01 am

        I certainly do in this case. After all, it’s no different really to being at an author event and giving a talk and answering questions.
        However there have been some cases, social media being what it is, where even in the usually very respectful milieu of literary blogs, an author has got into hot water by responding to discussions online and things have not gone well. As we know, readers who have strong opinions about things are often less restrained by courtesies when they are online. They can get personal and be downright unkind or rude about the author and I myself have occasionally had to edit comments on my blog so that they are not hurtful to the author or other people who have commented.
        And so my advice to any author *in general* would be to go only where you can be sure that the social media host will moderate any discussion and keep it nice.
        And in this case, Ros can be sure of that, I know!

        • February 15, 2020 10:58 am

          Oh, yes, good point, and good advice Lisa – and thanks! Mostly on blogs I find the discussion is respectful, but it’s wise for bloggers and commenters to be wary. And, of course, as you say, it’s important for the blog owner to watch carefully, to moderate and edit if necessary, if we want to maintain our open but welcoming tone. We’ve all had our moments I know.

  3. February 14, 2020 11:26 pm

    Ros Collins’ Rosa just now purchased – on the basis of your recommendation WG/ST (?) and her thoughtful and intelligent responses to questions others have earlier asked. Howard Jacobson was one of my lecturers at UoSydney – while Judah Waten is my all-time favourite Australian writer – his autobiographical pieces as much if not more so than his “fiction”! And Serge Liberman and Morris Lurie and a swag of others – Arnold Zable…

    • February 15, 2020 8:44 am

      Excellent, Jim, I hope you like it. And yes, Arnold Zable too. I’ve read two of his and would happily read more.

  4. ablay1 permalink
    February 15, 2020 7:48 am

    Lovely to read the ‘voice’ of the author and get such insight into her thought processes.

  5. February 15, 2020 8:21 am

    Fascinating responses. I also think that the word “license” makes a lot of sense. This has gotten me thinking about how memory can be so inaccurate, I see it in myself, my family and my friends as we recall older events. I winded just how I unintentionally inaccurate many memoirs are anyway.

    • February 15, 2020 8:57 am

      Absolutely, Brian. I see it in myself too. This is where I think we need to be clear about ”truth” versus fact (or accuracy). Of course there’s a place for fact – in politics, say! – but in this sort of writing the important thing is the truth of the experience.

      In memoirs, like this one though not unique to this one, there are two issues, one being not remembering exactly, and the other not knowing certain things.

      • Neil@kallaroo permalink
        February 15, 2020 4:07 pm

        LOL. Truth in politics? What are you on, WG? I want some, too…
        (And a big thank you to the author. I have minimal interest in Jews in Australia, but I am tempted to read this book.)

        • Neil@kallaroo permalink
          February 15, 2020 4:09 pm

          Whoops. I misread your comment. You want facts in politics. Agreed, though I still think you’re dreaming if you think this will happen.

        • February 15, 2020 5:11 pm

          Haha Nail, glad you got my point eventually! And, I did say politics was a place for facts, not that I thought it would happen!

        • February 15, 2020 5:09 pm

          Glad you liked the author’s response Neil!

  6. February 15, 2020 9:42 am

    Fascinating post! So fun that the author took the time to write these responses.

    • February 15, 2020 9:56 am

      Thanks Marg. It was so out of the blue, but I was thrilled and though5 readers here would like hearing what she says. BTW it’s been nice seeing you around the blogging traps again.

  7. February 15, 2020 11:25 am

    This is wonderful! I’m going to get my hands on her book. I just love this!

    • February 15, 2020 11:40 am

      That’s what I like to hear Pam … read the book, read the comments on my post and then come back here and read this again! I’ll be interested in your thoughts.

  8. February 16, 2020 4:05 am

    I am so pleased to read Ros’s responses here and so good to see ‘Rosa’ out in the world being read and appreciated.

  9. February 16, 2020 10:41 am

    How lucky you are, and we are to get such a friendly response. I hadn’t thought about British Jews as compared with European/survivors. My Jewish Australian reading has been confined to Lurie – who I always saw as in the NY tradition- Waten and, more recently Lily Brett.

    • February 16, 2020 11:05 am

      Thanks Bill. I was pleased to have her response because of the interest in the post. I think it’s important that people do understand the diversity of Jewish experience – as with all “groups”. Literature helps this immensely doesn’t it.

  10. February 16, 2020 11:50 am

    What a lovely Sunday morning treat to read! Thanks to Rosa for taking the time to respond like this and thanks for publishing it Sue.

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